tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post6159273616581295880..comments2024-03-11T17:08:07.679+01:00Comments on Sicily Scene: POLITICS AND TRAGEDYWelshcakes Limoncellohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17209759237794290941noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-37805485527969590192008-08-01T01:27:00.000+02:002008-08-01T01:27:00.000+02:00Cb, thank you for commenting. I follow your blog ...Cb, thank you for commenting. I follow your blog but hadn't realised you had lived in Sicily. I'm very interested in all that you say, especially the comparison between attitudes here and in the Veneto. Again, I agree with you.Welshcakes Limoncellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17209759237794290941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-19696029513339393072008-07-31T11:15:00.000+02:002008-07-31T11:15:00.000+02:00When I was living in Sicily, I found the attitude ...When I was living in Sicily, I found the attitude to clandestini much more positive than I had when I was living in the Veneto. <BR/><BR/>It is very hard for immigrants who are the 'wrong' colour to integrate into Italian life and I feel that the Italian press (which I still peruse occasionally from London) have created a much more demonic image of clandestini that might otherwise have existed in public perception - but then, I suppose the Right has hold on media outlets. <BR/>It's sad though - but the more that people who are forced into the position of illegal immigration are made out to be pariahs and not worthy of sympathy, the more crime that will be created and the more the general public will feel that it is acceptable to treat people as less than human merely because their documents weren't in order when they entered the country.Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12652768793937457682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-22932369458750932242008-07-30T00:15:00.000+02:002008-07-30T00:15:00.000+02:00Agree, M. Hi, ellee. Yes, it is very dificult ind...Agree, M. Hi, ellee. Yes, it is very dificult indeed. Couldn't agree more, jams.Welshcakes Limoncellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17209759237794290941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-78781075192597880962008-07-29T19:32:00.000+02:002008-07-29T19:32:00.000+02:00I fear that all governments are on a hiding to not...I fear that all governments are on a hiding to nothing while<BR/><BR/>people are desperate to emigrate<BR/><BR/>organised crime preys on their desperation<BR/><BR/>people in the developed world exploit illegalsjams o donnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17315325008175184363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-53832872801366018132008-07-29T10:03:00.000+02:002008-07-29T10:03:00.000+02:00I would say these measures go against human rights...I would say these measures go against human rights, but I also have strong sympathies with the Italians because of the cultural differences, and the comment made by Andrew. It's very, very tough.Ellee Seymourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11647480320978146418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-49595538648768784332008-07-29T04:22:00.000+02:002008-07-29T04:22:00.000+02:00Oh my gosh those poor babies! I pray to God moral...Oh my gosh those poor babies! I pray to God morality and peace find its way back here.<BR/><BR/>MMariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04170401447671532001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-69263572629523023392008-07-29T01:08:00.000+02:002008-07-29T01:08:00.000+02:00Hi, jmb. Yes, I just cannot see a solution, eithe...Hi, jmb. Yes, I just cannot see a solution, either. Cherrypiue, I agree, it is tragic. AA, I sympathise as a similar thing happened to me once in Paris. It's a horrible feeling. I, too, sympathise with anyone who has to deal with this, especially the coastguards and police who find the bodies in the sea: it must be terribly distressing for them.<BR/>Thanks, James. <BR/>I agree, Dragonstar: I cannot imagine....<BR/>I don't know, WW. Nothing, it seems, can stop this tide of desperation.<BR/>Mutley, I agree.Welshcakes Limoncellohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17209759237794290941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-42874020064897164872008-07-28T21:29:00.000+02:002008-07-28T21:29:00.000+02:00Its a terrible situation I know. All those brave ...Its a terrible situation I know. All those brave enterprising young guys wasting their lives... they are needed to build Africa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-56049556345790980662008-07-28T15:20:00.000+02:002008-07-28T15:20:00.000+02:00What are they going to do: scare them off with gun...What are they going to do: scare them off with gunboats?Whispering Wallshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03410656699815679312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-20769555010406138972008-07-28T10:29:00.000+02:002008-07-28T10:29:00.000+02:00It must be a measure of the complete desperation f...It must be a measure of the complete desperation felt by these people. Undertaking this kind of journey, with families - I can't begin to put myself in their shoes.Dragonstarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05935435587527038459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-30768508591202196312008-07-28T09:41:00.000+02:002008-07-28T09:41:00.000+02:00Very well put together and to follow the links, we...Very well put together and to follow the links, we get an idea of the extent of the problem. Hard to know how they can handle it.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-15976743820511937182008-07-28T01:24:00.000+02:002008-07-28T01:24:00.000+02:00Three years ago I had my wallet stolen by a group ...Three years ago I had my wallet stolen by a group of Albanian women and children whilst in Rome. Luckily, after raising the alarm on a quiet Metro station on Easter Day, the woman who stole my wallet dropped it back on the floor without removing any money or cards.<BR/><BR/>I know illegal immigration is a huge problem for Italy, and I have every sympathy for the government as they try and tackle - what seems - an impossible problem.Andrew Allisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00001512586556659809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-60481530571501946922008-07-27T23:14:00.000+02:002008-07-27T23:14:00.000+02:00It is just so sad that the world has come to this....It is just so sad that the world has come to this...CherryPiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11788084724907992076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-26674022.post-64007161457462657662008-07-27T22:11:00.000+02:002008-07-27T22:11:00.000+02:00I wondered when they would do something like this,...I wondered when they would do something like this, it is a big problem that they don't want to deal with for the simple reason that there is no real viable solution.jmbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13563252743976699923noreply@blogger.com